Many sites claimed that Ferrari F60B will be 15kgs lighter.
That is MASSIVE.
With this lighter chassis, combine with several updates including double-decker diffuser, they expecting themselves to be 0.6 sec faster than they had now.
Submitted by reinmuster on Tue, 05/05/2009 - 12:46pm.
Ferrari had reliability problems with KERS in Australia and Malaysia and then they dropped it for China... looks like Bahrain improved but Barcelona will determine if it was more luck than judgement
In a ruling that could have major implications on the outcome of the 2009 World Championship, the International Court of Appeal has ruled that the diffusers of Brawn GP, Toyota and Williams are legal.
'The FIA International Court of Appeal has decided to deny the appeals submitted against decisions numbered 16 to 24 taken by the Panel of the Stewards on 26 March at the 2009 Grand Prix of Australia and counting towards the 2009 FIA Formula One World Championship.
'Based on the arguments heard and evidence before it, the Court has concluded that the Stewards were correct to find that the cars in question comply with the applicable regulations.
Submitted by RawFlesh on Wed, 15/04/2009 - 6:35pm.
In a ruling that could have major implications on the outcome of the 2009 World Championship, the International Court of Appeal has ruled that the diffusers of Brawn GP, Toyota and Williams are legal.
'The FIA International Court of Appeal has decided to deny the appeals submitted against decisions numbered 16 to 24 taken by the Panel of the Stewards on 26 March at the 2009 Grand Prix of Australia and counting towards the 2009 FIA Formula One World Championship.
'Based on the arguments heard and evidence before it, the Court has concluded that the Stewards were correct to find that the cars in question comply with the applicable regulations.
...the other teams better fit their diffusers for the next race this weekened....if they have one that is.
In a ruling that could have major implications on the outcome of the 2009 World Championship, the International Court of Appeal has ruled that the diffusers of Brawn GP, Toyota and Williams are legal.
'The FIA International Court of Appeal has decided to deny the appeals submitted against decisions numbered 16 to 24 taken by the Panel of the Stewards on 26 March at the 2009 Grand Prix of Australia and counting towards the 2009 FIA Formula One World Championship.
'Based on the arguments heard and evidence before it, the Court has concluded that the Stewards were correct to find that the cars in question comply with the applicable regulations.
It just gets more n more interesting as the days goes by
============
Britain's mainstream sports press branded Lewis Hamilton a 'liar' overnight, after stewards revealed he and the McLaren team deliberately misled them in Australia.
At a reconvened inquiry in Malaysia, Jarno Trulli had his podium reinstated while 24-year-old Hamilton was excluded from the results, regarding the incident behind the safety car at Albert Park days earlier.
But additional sanctions are now possible, given the FIA's right to refer the matter to the World Motor Sport Council because Hamilton was charged with bringing the sport into disrepute.
"It is potentially an extremely severe situation," a spokesman for the Paris body said at Sepang. "We cannot rule out further action.
"
The British press is musing the possibility of race bans, or total exclusion from the world championship.
But the worst damage is likely to be to the reigning world champion's image.
The Daily Star headlined the story 'Liar Lewis', and The Sun tabloid said 'You're a liar, Lewis'.
Contrary to McLaren's denial, the FIA late on Thursday insisted the team and Lewis Hamilton misled the stewards during an inquiry at Albert Park last Sunday.
The reigning world champion has been disqualified from the results of the event, having told the stewards that Jarno Trulli illegally overtook him under the safety car towards the end of the Melbourne race.
A statement issued by the FIA reveals that stewards asked Hamilton and Team Manager David Ryan 'specifically' whether the British driver was instructed to allow Trulli's Toyota to pass him.
"Both the driver and the Team Manager stated that no such instruction had been given," the FIA said.
"The Race Director specifically asked Hamilton whether he had consciously allowed Trulli to overtake. Hamilton insisted that he had not done so," the statement added.
Also released by the governing body on Thursday was a recording of a post-race media interview, in which Hamilton admitted that McLaren told him to let Trulli pass.
The FIA also published audio and text transcripts of radio conversations between Hamilton and the pitwall, where the team told its driver: "Allow the Toyota through now."
The FIA said the stewards feel "strongly that they had been misled" by Hamilton and McLaren "which led to Jarno Trulli being unfairly penalised and Lewis Hamilton gaining third place."
As the chequered flag flew Sunday evening in Melbourne, Jarno Trulli celebrated a fine third position after starting the 58-lap Australian Grand Prix from the pit lane.
The Italian veteran was later handed a 25 second penalty for allegedly overtaking Lewis Hamilton whilst behind the safety car, dropping the Toyota racer to 12th in the results.
Today stewards looked at ‘new evidence’ and concluded that Hamilton had deliberately mislead the FIA delegates in Australia. Trulli is therefore reinstated to third position while defending champion Hamilton has been excluded from the results.
The final finishing positions for the opening round of the season are; Jenson Button, Rubens Barrichello, Jarno Trulli, Timo Glock, Fernando Alonso, Nico Rosberg, Sebastien Buemi and Sebastien Bourdais.
Further details to follow...
Submitted by RawFlesh on Thu, 02/04/2009 - 5:33pm.
In a surprise statement issued shortly after midnight on this date, the highly competitive Brawn GP team shocked the F1 community by announcing that Lewis Hamilton is switching to the Brackley-based outfit for the remainder of the 2009 season.
The reigning World Champion will therefore leave the McLaren Mercedes team with immediate effect, and will be wearing the Brawn operation's white overalls at this week-end's Malaysian Grand Prix.
“It was a logical decision to make when considering the situation both our teams are facing at present,” Ross Brawn stated. “Everyone is very confident in regards to our potential in both the drivers' and constructors' championships.”
It seems that Brawn GP's current budget, combined with the lack of performance provided by McLaren's new single-seater, provoked an important brainstorming session within the Mercedes camp which ultimately resulted in pushing the daring plan forward and putting the best chances on their side.
“You have to look at the numbers,” explained Norbert Haug, VP of Mercedes-Benz Motorsports. “By switching Lewis and part of our budget to Brawn – which is already Mercedes-powered – statistically we can manage to win both championships this season.”
“I know there's only been one race so far this year,” Haug admitted, “but it adds up.
”
“This is really a wonderful gesture,” said a smiling Hamilton. “This is the best way for me to help my regular team move forward. With the spotlight on me at Brawn while I win all these races, McLaren don't have to worry about having a World Champion aboard and all that pressure.”
“Really,” he added, “I don't know why I hadn't thought of this myself!”
Ron Dennis, Martin Whitmarsh and Anthony Hamilton issued a joint statement which reads: “We have raised this child to be a World Champion again and again (…) this is a bold step in preserving that goal.”
The situation means that either Jenson Button or Rubens Barrichello will have to move aside to make place for Hamilton. The decision regarding who will sit in the vacated McLaren car has not yet been made, but the news was obviously badly received.
“I think not,” said Button. “You see, I'm spotted to be the next Brit F1 star.”
Reached by phone, Barrichello's response was more direct: “I told them I was through with making way for champions!”
It is unknown at present if the changes announced today will affect the Brawn team's expected title sponsorship with the Virgin empire, but it has been reported that a portion of the money previously tagged for F1 will now be used to purchase a fleet of small fishing vessels off the coast of Newfoundland.
In a surprise statement issued shortly after midnight on this date, the highly competitive Brawn GP team shocked the F1 community by announcing that Lewis Hamilton is switching to the Brackley-based outfit for the remainder of the 2009 season.
The reigning World Champion will therefore leave the McLaren Mercedes team with immediate effect, and will be wearing the Brawn operation's white overalls at this week-end's Malaysian Grand Prix.
“It was a logical decision to make when considering the situation both our teams are facing at present,” Ross Brawn stated. “Everyone is very confident in regards to our potential in both the drivers' and constructors' championships.”
It seems that Brawn GP's current budget, combined with the lack of performance provided by McLaren's new single-seater, provoked an important brainstorming session within the Mercedes camp which ultimately resulted in pushing the daring plan forward and putting the best chances on their side.
“You have to look at the numbers,” explained Norbert Haug, VP of Mercedes-Benz Motorsports. “By switching Lewis and part of our budget to Brawn – which is already Mercedes-powered – statistically we can manage to win both championships this season.”
“I know there's only been one race so far this year,” Haug admitted, “but it adds up.
”
“This is really a wonderful gesture,” said a smiling Hamilton. “This is the best way for me to help my regular team move forward. With the spotlight on me at Brawn while I win all these races, McLaren don't have to worry about having a World Champion aboard and all that pressure.”
“Really,” he added, “I don't know why I hadn't thought of this myself!”
Ron Dennis, Martin Whitmarsh and Anthony Hamilton issued a joint statement which reads: “We have raised this child to be a World Champion again and again (…) this is a bold step in preserving that goal.”
The situation means that either Jenson Button or Rubens Barrichello will have to move aside to make place for Hamilton. The decision regarding who will sit in the vacated McLaren car has not yet been made, but the news was obviously badly received.
“I think not,” said Button. “You see, I'm spotted to be the next Brit F1 star.”
Reached by phone, Barrichello's response was more direct: “I told them I was through with making way for champions!”
It is unknown at present if the changes announced today will affect the Brawn team's expected title sponsorship with the Virgin empire, but it has been reported that a portion of the money previously tagged for F1 will now be used to purchase a fleet of small fishing vessels off the coast of Newfoundland.
I think the penalty is mainly for Vettel driving around with 3 wheels behind the SC instead of coming in the pits or parking by the side of the track....
Vettel was fined $50,000 for driving with 3 wheels, but pushed back on the grid for causing the incident.
Submitted by edwynlow on Mon, 30/03/2009 - 8:46pm.
I think the penalty is mainly for Vettel driving around with 3 wheels behind the SC instead of coming in the pits or parking by the side of the track....
Submitted by RawFlesh on Mon, 30/03/2009 - 6:52pm.
apparently that was Kubica slam the door caused the accident.
agree with you bro.... Kubica was so greedy, he should have at least leave some room for Vettel to take that corner without causing any damage to both machine
Formula1.com wrote:
Toyota’s Jarno Trulli has lost his third place in Sunday’s Australian Grand Prix after stewards penalized him for passing under the safety car in the closing laps.
Trulli ran off road near the end of the race, thus losing a place to McLaren’s Lewis Hamilton, but then repassed the world champion once he had rejoined the circuit.
The Italian was given a 10-second stop-go penalty as a result, but since the offence occurred within the final five laps that was translated into a 25-second penalty added to his race time. He thus drops to 12th.
what a joke!
somebody from Toyota should have noticed this & inform him
I feel the penalty for Vettel is a little too much. Looking at the replay, we can clearly see Kubica did not give enough space for both of them. It's a 50/50 chance.
Submitted by edwynlow on Mon, 30/03/2009 - 6:29pm.
apparently that was Kubica slam the door caused the accident.
agree with you bro.... Kubica was so greedy, he should have at least leave some room for Vettel to take that corner without causing any damage to both machine
Formula1.com wrote:
Toyota’s Jarno Trulli has lost his third place in Sunday’s Australian Grand Prix after stewards penalized him for passing under the safety car in the closing laps.
Trulli ran off road near the end of the race, thus losing a place to McLaren’s Lewis Hamilton, but then repassed the world champion once he had rejoined the circuit.
The Italian was given a 10-second stop-go penalty as a result, but since the offence occurred within the final five laps that was translated into a 25-second penalty added to his race time. He thus drops to 12th.
what a joke!
somebody from Toyota should have noticed this & inform him
Submitted by bosozoku on Mon, 30/03/2009 - 2:38pm.
Red Bull’s Sebastian Vettel has been handed a 10-place grid penalty for next weekend’s Malaysian Grand Prix following an incident in Sunday’s Australian race. Vettel collided with BMW Sauber’s Robert Kubica during the latter stages in Melbourne as the Polish driver attempted to overtake him.
Following a post-race investigation, stewards decided to penalise the young German for 'causing a collision and forcing a driver off the track’. He had been racing in second, behind eventual race victor Jenson Button, with Kubica running a close third.
“We were in second and a strong position, but then, a couple of laps from the end, I had a stupid racing accident with Robert,” explained Vettel. “At the time I turned in I was ahead, but I couldn't keep up speed in the corner and Robert was on a harder tyre, so was much quicker. At the time we collided he was in front, but I had no where to go, I couldn't stop the car, or turn to the right and my tyres were gone.
“Maybe I should have said let him go and bring third back home, but that's life. I tried to defend and, up to the mid-corner, I had reason, but then I had no grip to avoid a collision. I'm sorry to the team and also to Robert, as it didn't just mean the end of my race, but also his.”
Both Vettel's and Kubica's cars sustained substantial front-end damage in the collision. But while the BMW Sauber driver spun off and hit a wall soon after, Vettel continued to drive his stricken RB5 with its left front wheel hanging off as the safety car emerged following the incident.
As a result the stewards have additionally fined him - and Red Bull Racing - US$50,000 for continuing to drive a damaged car.
Kesian!! due to stupid mistake both of the them can't finished the race
Submitted by bosozoku on Mon, 30/03/2009 - 12:08pm.
They gonna revert back into 2008 point scoring system.
Meanwhile Red Bull had officially protest the diffuser designs of Toyota, Williams and Brawn GP. I'm not agree because FIA had clarify those designs are legal before. Those 3 teams had found loophole on the rule, they should keep them and allowed to be raced.
Submitted by reinmuster on Wed, 25/03/2009 - 9:21pm.
The WMSC accepted the proposal from Formula One Management to award the drivers’ championship to the driver who has won the most races during the season. If two or more drivers finish the season with the same number of wins, the title will be awarded to the driver with the most points, the allocation of points being based on the current 10, 8, 6 etc. system.
The rest of the standings, from second to last place, will be decided by the current points system. There is no provision to award medals for first, second or third place. The Constructors’ Championship is unaffected.
The WMSC rejected the alternative proposal from the Formula One Teams’ Association to change the points awarded to drivers finishing in first, second and third place to 12, 9 and 7 points respectively.
sounds like rubbish. somebody must be smoking something here. imagine this... massa scores 5 wins and 50 points. kubica scores 4 wins and 80 points. massa takes the WDC. rubbish innit?
reinmuster | Many sites claimed that
Many sites claimed that Ferrari F60B will be 15kgs lighter.
That is MASSIVE.
With this lighter chassis, combine with several updates including double-decker diffuser, they expecting themselves to be 0.6 sec faster than they had now.
timmsm | Ferrari had reliability
Ferrari had reliability problems with KERS in Australia and Malaysia and then they dropped it for China... looks like Bahrain improved but Barcelona will determine if it was more luck than judgement
aiman rizal | ferrari no is doing
ferrari no is doing bad.....why ferrari doing so bad in the 1 2 and 3 race???
was the ferrari car not fast enough or driver proble???/
bombe994 | phew! what a relief ...
phew! what a relief ...
RawFlesh | csetter wrote:In a ruling
In a ruling that could have major implications on the outcome of the 2009 World Championship, the International Court of Appeal has ruled that the diffusers of Brawn GP, Toyota and Williams are legal.
'The FIA International Court of Appeal has decided to deny the appeals submitted against decisions numbered 16 to 24 taken by the Panel of the Stewards on 26 March at the 2009 Grand Prix of Australia and counting towards the 2009 FIA Formula One World Championship.
'Based on the arguments heard and evidence before it, the Court has concluded that the Stewards were correct to find that the cars in question comply with the applicable regulations.
naza | csetter wrote:In a ruling
In a ruling that could have major implications on the outcome of the 2009 World Championship, the International Court of Appeal has ruled that the diffusers of Brawn GP, Toyota and Williams are legal.
'The FIA International Court of Appeal has decided to deny the appeals submitted against decisions numbered 16 to 24 taken by the Panel of the Stewards on 26 March at the 2009 Grand Prix of Australia and counting towards the 2009 FIA Formula One World Championship.
'Based on the arguments heard and evidence before it, the Court has concluded that the Stewards were correct to find that the cars in question comply with the applicable regulations.
...the other teams better fit their diffusers for the next race this weekened....if they have one that is.
csetter | In a ruling that could have
In a ruling that could have major implications on the outcome of the 2009 World Championship, the International Court of Appeal has ruled that the diffusers of Brawn GP, Toyota and Williams are legal.
'The FIA International Court of Appeal has decided to deny the appeals submitted against decisions numbered 16 to 24 taken by the Panel of the Stewards on 26 March at the 2009 Grand Prix of Australia and counting towards the 2009 FIA Formula One World Championship.
'Based on the arguments heard and evidence before it, the Court has concluded that the Stewards were correct to find that the cars in question comply with the applicable regulations.
RawFlesh | Red tops pan Lewis Hamilton (Race bans possible the FIA claim)
It just gets more n more interesting as the days goes by
============
Britain's mainstream sports press branded Lewis Hamilton a 'liar' overnight, after stewards revealed he and the McLaren team deliberately misled them in Australia.
At a reconvened inquiry in Malaysia, Jarno Trulli had his podium reinstated while 24-year-old Hamilton was excluded from the results, regarding the incident behind the safety car at Albert Park days earlier.
But additional sanctions are now possible, given the FIA's right to refer the matter to the World Motor Sport Council because Hamilton was charged with bringing the sport into disrepute.
"It is potentially an extremely severe situation," a spokesman for the Paris body said at Sepang. "We cannot rule out further action.
"
The British press is musing the possibility of race bans, or total exclusion from the world championship.
But the worst damage is likely to be to the reigning world champion's image.
The Daily Star headlined the story 'Liar Lewis', and The Sun tabloid said 'You're a liar, Lewis'.
Source: GMM
© CAPSIS International
RawFlesh | McLaren did mislead stewards, FIA insists
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090402170443.shtml
Contrary to McLaren's denial, the FIA late on Thursday insisted the team and Lewis Hamilton misled the stewards during an inquiry at Albert Park last Sunday.
The reigning world champion has been disqualified from the results of the event, having told the stewards that Jarno Trulli illegally overtook him under the safety car towards the end of the Melbourne race.
A statement issued by the FIA reveals that stewards asked Hamilton and Team Manager David Ryan 'specifically' whether the British driver was instructed to allow Trulli's Toyota to pass him.
"Both the driver and the Team Manager stated that no such instruction had been given," the FIA said.
"The Race Director specifically asked Hamilton whether he had consciously allowed Trulli to overtake. Hamilton insisted that he had not done so," the statement added.
Also released by the governing body on Thursday was a recording of a post-race media interview, in which Hamilton admitted that McLaren told him to let Trulli pass.
The FIA also published audio and text transcripts of radio conversations between Hamilton and the pitwall, where the team told its driver: "Allow the Toyota through now."
The FIA said the stewards feel "strongly that they had been misled" by Hamilton and McLaren "which led to Jarno Trulli being unfairly penalised and Lewis Hamilton gaining third place."
E.A, Source: GMM
© CAPSIS International
RawFlesh | http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090402110240.shtml
As the chequered flag flew Sunday evening in Melbourne, Jarno Trulli celebrated a fine third position after starting the 58-lap Australian Grand Prix from the pit lane.
The Italian veteran was later handed a 25 second penalty for allegedly overtaking Lewis Hamilton whilst behind the safety car, dropping the Toyota racer to 12th in the results.
Today stewards looked at ‘new evidence’ and concluded that Hamilton had deliberately mislead the FIA delegates in Australia. Trulli is therefore reinstated to third position while defending champion Hamilton has been excluded from the results.
The final finishing positions for the opening round of the season are; Jenson Button, Rubens Barrichello, Jarno Trulli, Timo Glock, Fernando Alonso, Nico Rosberg, Sebastien Buemi and Sebastien Bourdais.
Further details to follow...
luen | @!2@%%$!##**&......
@!2@%%$!##**&......
RawFlesh | naza wrote:luen wrote:not
not fair to both Button and Barichello
...bro, you kena laaa!
Kekekeke
APRIL FOOL! 
naza | luen wrote:not fair to both
not fair to both Button and Barichello
...bro, you kena laaa!
bombe994 | big time april fool there
big time april fool there ... but enjoyable to read though
bosozoku | RawFlesh
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090401093727.shtml
HAMILTON SWITCHES TO BRAWN GP!
In a surprise statement issued shortly after midnight on this date, the highly competitive Brawn GP team shocked the F1 community by announcing that Lewis Hamilton is switching to the Brackley-based outfit for the remainder of the 2009 season.
The reigning World Champion will therefore leave the McLaren Mercedes team with immediate effect, and will be wearing the Brawn operation's white overalls at this week-end's Malaysian Grand Prix.
“It was a logical decision to make when considering the situation both our teams are facing at present,” Ross Brawn stated. “Everyone is very confident in regards to our potential in both the drivers' and constructors' championships.”
It seems that Brawn GP's current budget, combined with the lack of performance provided by McLaren's new single-seater, provoked an important brainstorming session within the Mercedes camp which ultimately resulted in pushing the daring plan forward and putting the best chances on their side.
“You have to look at the numbers,” explained Norbert Haug, VP of Mercedes-Benz Motorsports. “By switching Lewis and part of our budget to Brawn – which is already Mercedes-powered – statistically we can manage to win both championships this season.”
“I know there's only been one race so far this year,” Haug admitted, “but it adds up.
”
“This is really a wonderful gesture,” said a smiling Hamilton. “This is the best way for me to help my regular team move forward. With the spotlight on me at Brawn while I win all these races, McLaren don't have to worry about having a World Champion aboard and all that pressure.”
“Really,” he added, “I don't know why I hadn't thought of this myself!”
Ron Dennis, Martin Whitmarsh and Anthony Hamilton issued a joint statement which reads: “We have raised this child to be a World Champion again and again (…) this is a bold step in preserving that goal.”
The situation means that either Jenson Button or Rubens Barrichello will have to move aside to make place for Hamilton. The decision regarding who will sit in the vacated McLaren car has not yet been made, but the news was obviously badly received.
“I think not,” said Button. “You see, I'm spotted to be the next Brit F1 star.”
Reached by phone, Barrichello's response was more direct: “I told them I was through with making way for champions!”
It is unknown at present if the changes announced today will affect the Brawn team's expected title sponsorship with the Virgin empire, but it has been reported that a portion of the money previously tagged for F1 will now be used to purchase a fleet of small fishing vessels off the coast of Newfoundland.
Dan B. Fish
© CAPSIS International
APRIL FOOL!!
luen | no fair no fair to both
not fair to both Button and Barichello
RawFlesh | http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/h
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090401093727.shtml
HAMILTON SWITCHES TO BRAWN GP!
In a surprise statement issued shortly after midnight on this date, the highly competitive Brawn GP team shocked the F1 community by announcing that Lewis Hamilton is switching to the Brackley-based outfit for the remainder of the 2009 season.
The reigning World Champion will therefore leave the McLaren Mercedes team with immediate effect, and will be wearing the Brawn operation's white overalls at this week-end's Malaysian Grand Prix.
“It was a logical decision to make when considering the situation both our teams are facing at present,” Ross Brawn stated. “Everyone is very confident in regards to our potential in both the drivers' and constructors' championships.”
It seems that Brawn GP's current budget, combined with the lack of performance provided by McLaren's new single-seater, provoked an important brainstorming session within the Mercedes camp which ultimately resulted in pushing the daring plan forward and putting the best chances on their side.
“You have to look at the numbers,” explained Norbert Haug, VP of Mercedes-Benz Motorsports. “By switching Lewis and part of our budget to Brawn – which is already Mercedes-powered – statistically we can manage to win both championships this season.”
“I know there's only been one race so far this year,” Haug admitted, “but it adds up.
”
“This is really a wonderful gesture,” said a smiling Hamilton. “This is the best way for me to help my regular team move forward. With the spotlight on me at Brawn while I win all these races, McLaren don't have to worry about having a World Champion aboard and all that pressure.”
“Really,” he added, “I don't know why I hadn't thought of this myself!”
Ron Dennis, Martin Whitmarsh and Anthony Hamilton issued a joint statement which reads: “We have raised this child to be a World Champion again and again (…) this is a bold step in preserving that goal.”
The situation means that either Jenson Button or Rubens Barrichello will have to move aside to make place for Hamilton. The decision regarding who will sit in the vacated McLaren car has not yet been made, but the news was obviously badly received.
“I think not,” said Button. “You see, I'm spotted to be the next Brit F1 star.”
Reached by phone, Barrichello's response was more direct: “I told them I was through with making way for champions!”
It is unknown at present if the changes announced today will affect the Brawn team's expected title sponsorship with the Virgin empire, but it has been reported that a portion of the money previously tagged for F1 will now be used to purchase a fleet of small fishing vessels off the coast of Newfoundland.
Dan B. Fish
© CAPSIS International
RawFlesh | OIC, my bad.....
OIC, my bad.....
edwynlow | RawFlesh wrote:I think the
I think the penalty is mainly for Vettel driving around with 3 wheels behind the SC instead of coming in the pits or parking by the side of the track....
Vettel was fined $50,000 for driving with 3 wheels, but pushed back on the grid for causing the incident.
RawFlesh | I think the penalty is
I think the penalty is mainly for Vettel driving around with 3 wheels behind the SC instead of coming in the pits or parking by the side of the track....
edwynlow | bosozoku wrote:luen
apparently that was Kubica slam the door caused the accident.
agree with you bro.... Kubica was so greedy, he should have at least leave some room for Vettel to take that corner without causing any damage to both machine
Toyota’s Jarno Trulli has lost his third place in Sunday’s Australian Grand Prix after stewards penalized him for passing under the safety car in the closing laps.
Trulli ran off road near the end of the race, thus losing a place to McLaren’s Lewis Hamilton, but then repassed the world champion once he had rejoined the circuit.
The Italian was given a 10-second stop-go penalty as a result, but since the offence occurred within the final five laps that was translated into a 25-second penalty added to his race time. He thus drops to 12th.
what a joke!
somebody from Toyota should have noticed this & inform him
I feel the penalty for Vettel is a little too much. Looking at the replay, we can clearly see Kubica did not give enough space for both of them. It's a 50/50 chance.
luen | latest news Truli 3rd
latest news
Truli 3rd position has been revoked. Due to overtaking under SC, Truli has been imposed 25 seconds that bump him to 12th.
official standing
1. Jenson
2. Barrichello
3. L. Hamitlon
http://www.formula1.com/
bosozoku | luen wrote:apparently that
apparently that was Kubica slam the door caused the accident.
agree with you bro.... Kubica was so greedy, he should have at least leave some room for Vettel to take that corner without causing any damage to both machine
Toyota’s Jarno Trulli has lost his third place in Sunday’s Australian Grand Prix after stewards penalized him for passing under the safety car in the closing laps.
Trulli ran off road near the end of the race, thus losing a place to McLaren’s Lewis Hamilton, but then repassed the world champion once he had rejoined the circuit.
The Italian was given a 10-second stop-go penalty as a result, but since the offence occurred within the final five laps that was translated into a 25-second penalty added to his race time. He thus drops to 12th.
what a joke!
somebody from Toyota should have noticed this & inform him
luen | apparently that was Kubica
apparently that was Kubica slam the door caused the accident.
bosozoku | Vettel penalised and fined
Vettel penalised and fined for Kubica collision
Red Bull’s Sebastian Vettel has been handed a 10-place grid penalty for next weekend’s Malaysian Grand Prix following an incident in Sunday’s Australian race. Vettel collided with BMW Sauber’s Robert Kubica during the latter stages in Melbourne as the Polish driver attempted to overtake him.
Following a post-race investigation, stewards decided to penalise the young German for 'causing a collision and forcing a driver off the track’. He had been racing in second, behind eventual race victor Jenson Button, with Kubica running a close third.
“We were in second and a strong position, but then, a couple of laps from the end, I had a stupid racing accident with Robert,” explained Vettel. “At the time I turned in I was ahead, but I couldn't keep up speed in the corner and Robert was on a harder tyre, so was much quicker. At the time we collided he was in front, but I had no where to go, I couldn't stop the car, or turn to the right and my tyres were gone.
“Maybe I should have said let him go and bring third back home, but that's life. I tried to defend and, up to the mid-corner, I had reason, but then I had no grip to avoid a collision. I'm sorry to the team and also to Robert, as it didn't just mean the end of my race, but also his.”
Both Vettel's and Kubica's cars sustained substantial front-end damage in the collision. But while the BMW Sauber driver spun off and hit a wall soon after, Vettel continued to drive his stricken RB5 with its left front wheel hanging off as the safety car emerged following the incident.
As a result the stewards have additionally fined him - and Red Bull Racing - US$50,000 for continuing to drive a damaged car.
Kesian!! due to stupid mistake both of the them can't finished the race
reinmuster | They gonna revert back into
They gonna revert back into 2008 point scoring system.
Meanwhile Red Bull had officially protest the diffuser designs of Toyota, Williams and Brawn GP. I'm not agree because FIA had clarify those designs are legal before. Those 3 teams had found loophole on the rule, they should keep them and allowed to be raced.
Nohad | Dun agree with the ruling.
Dun agree with the ruling. By winning more than 50% of the races in the race year by mid-season, the driver can take the rest of the year off.
TheFazz | Quote:The WMSC accepted the
The WMSC accepted the proposal from Formula One Management to award the drivers’ championship to the driver who has won the most races during the season. If two or more drivers finish the season with the same number of wins, the title will be awarded to the driver with the most points, the allocation of points being based on the current 10, 8, 6 etc. system.
The rest of the standings, from second to last place, will be decided by the current points system. There is no provision to award medals for first, second or third place. The Constructors’ Championship is unaffected.
The WMSC rejected the alternative proposal from the Formula One Teams’ Association to change the points awarded to drivers finishing in first, second and third place to 12, 9 and 7 points respectively.
source: http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wmsc/2009/Pages/wmsc_170309.aspx
what do you guys think of this late ruling?
sounds like rubbish. somebody must be smoking something here. imagine this... massa scores 5 wins and 50 points. kubica scores 4 wins and 80 points. massa takes the WDC. rubbish innit?
timmsm | ... how can they get the
... how can they get the bluetooth signal so strong for that kind of range??
edwynlow | Cool man~ Wish I can drive
Cool man~ Wish I can drive my car with my phone~ Hahaha~